SM70 hasn't got a sense of humor

"sm70- why not Duesenberg?" (sm70-whynotduesenberg)
03/07/2018 at 21:06 • Filed to: None

If David Tracy were my neighbor and did what he does at !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! , I would be going to the HOA (which my neighborhood doesn’t have, but you get the point), the city council, the police, or just flat out sue him until he stopped. If you want to do this shit on your property, that’s fine, but go out and buy an acreage somewhere in the middle of nowhere. I love cars, and I’m sure my family’s house represents an eyesore to some given that we have cars parked in our driveway, but using one’s yard as a personal junk yard/mud bog is absurd. He’s not being funny, and the articles that result aren’t a champion of the blue-collar every-man wrencher over the establishment. Every single one of them just seems to further the idea that he is a socially inept asshole. The fact that he finally had the decency to stop when his neighbor came over to confront him doesn’t improve my opinion of him much, but I suppose it’s better than him digging his heels in. Still, how inconsiderate and antisocial do you have to be to think it’s okay to do this in the first place?

DISCUSSION (84)

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
03/07/2018 at 21:25

I’m of two minds on the matter.

facw > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
03/07/2018 at 21:26

He obviously does not have a HOA. I wouldn’t be at all shocked if he’s breaking some local ordinance though, especially given that these are essentially commercial projects, given that he is doing them to create content for Jalopnik.

Still, if you ever wonder why people want HOAs, despite the fact that they are near uniformly awful, this is why.

bob and john > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
03/07/2018 at 21:27

yea, at this point I have no more respect/empathy for him. I get being a car guy and having a little buit of fun. At this point, he is just being an idiot

CB > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
03/07/2018 at 21:28

I agree with you. It seems pretty disrespectful. And I think I remember reading (but correct me if I’m wrong) that he rents the property? It’s just like... dude, find something out of town for this, not when you live close to a lot of people.

daender > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
03/07/2018 at 21:29

It’s fine if it only affects him but if his activities are causing mosquito and skunk problems for his neighbor, then I draw the line there.

smobgirl > CB
03/07/2018 at 21:31

I think I read that too. I’d be furious.

Chuckles > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
03/07/2018 at 21:34

I agree with you. Guys like him are the reason that you end up with ordinances about not working on cars on your property. According to my lease, I can’t even change my oil in my own driveway. Not because changing your oil is bad, but because some jackass probably took it too far like David Tracy does, and it’s easier to just ban all activity instead of using nuance.

His Stigness > CB
03/07/2018 at 21:38

You read right, he does rent. But his landlord said one thing he did one time was okay, so apparently to him that was a blank check to be the worst tenant ever.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > CB
03/07/2018 at 21:39

He rents it, yes. His landlord has apparently been cool with it to some degree...but clearly he’s taken a mile from the inch of leash given him.

His Stigness > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
03/07/2018 at 21:40

Besides his shitty neighborhood acts, his “repairs” that he posts encourage and condone people doing stupid and unsafe shit. If your radiator support has rusted out I don’t think your car is safe to drive, no matter how many zip ties you use.

As a professional technician, I take offense to any widely distributed posts that encourage people to do stupid and unsafe shit.

CB > His Stigness
03/07/2018 at 21:40

Yeah, that’s absurd. I wonder if the owner reads Jalopnik and knows what’s going on.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Chuckles
03/07/2018 at 21:40

^^^^^^^ This exactly. Much like streetracers do to people who just go to cars & coffee, he’s making all of us look bad & causing more of a crackdown as a result.

His Stigness > CB
03/07/2018 at 21:41

His land lord lives right next to him.

CB > His Stigness
03/07/2018 at 21:42

... wow. That’s... I have no words.

Spanfeller is a twat > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
03/07/2018 at 21:42

And I thought my open letter to Kristen was strong worded....

While NIMBY is out of control, it seems like stuff like what some people do in their backyard (Tracy does certainly exemplify this sometimes) are the reason many HOAs are very strict. The one in my building isn’t strict at all.... one of our asshole neighbors keeps his dogs in the emergency staircase, I wonder what would happen if we needed to evacuate...

CB > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
03/07/2018 at 21:43

Yeah, something about not taking advantage of someone’s kindness. When it runs out, the post made will be something special, that’s for sure.

Spanfeller is a twat > His Stigness
03/07/2018 at 21:44

hey, don’t you know (former) engineers in big multinational corporations have the last word in what’s best ALWAYS?

(I’m being salty over an argument we had againts another kinja-er over german engineering)

facw > CB
03/07/2018 at 21:46

Yeah, he rents. I do wonder if the landlord realizes how much its going to cost to repair that lawn.

I also sort of assume that the landlord is hoping David will burn the house down so he can collect the insurance. Tearing it down and starting fresh may be the only way to get the grease and metal shavings out.

His Stigness > Spanfeller is a twat
03/07/2018 at 21:48

Ah yes we did shut that multinational corporate engineer down hard.

I know you’re studying to be an engineer, so I should warn you one of the worst automotive customers are engineers. They think they know what they’re talking about, and they parade this around even though they brought their car into an automotive professional to have it diagnosed and repaired. My friends and I get many laughs from these guys, though.

And David is a perfect example that just because you have an engineering degree doesn’t mean you’re also a master automotive repair technician. I don’t pretend to be an engineer, and engineers shouldn’t pretend to be master technicians.

His Stigness > CB
03/07/2018 at 21:49

I also seem to remember that his landlord(s) are foreign, so I don’t think they share our same feelings for having nice neighborhoods. Or they just don’t give a shit about what other people think of their own home.

gettingoldercarguy > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
03/07/2018 at 21:49

Another reason why I don’t go to FP anymore.

His Stigness > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
03/07/2018 at 21:50

What’s worse is that other neighbors have complained, but his landlord just doesn’t seem to give a shit.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > His Stigness
03/07/2018 at 21:50

But he said he would never drive an unsafe car on the street!!!!!!!

Really? I doubt he owns a safe car. Especially after he’s worked on them.

gettingoldercarguy > Chuckles
03/07/2018 at 21:50

Can we pretend this is tomorrow for this to be cotd?

bob and john > AMGtech - now with more recalls!
03/07/2018 at 21:53

okay, I spit my drink at that one. LMAO

His Stigness > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
03/07/2018 at 22:00

Jesus christ I’m now wondering if he really is that stupid, or he’s doing this stupid shit in the quest for clicks.

“We wrapped the tow strap around the bumper even though we’ve seen people do it and it not working.”

Oh. My. GOD!

I feel so bad for his neighbor. And his landlord needs to learn how to be a proper landlord.

His Stigness > daender
03/07/2018 at 22:02

And the property values. If a buyer saw that I doubt they would want to buy it, except at a steep discount.

AestheticsInMotion > facw
03/07/2018 at 22:02

I’d still take David Tracey over an HOA any day of the week. Absolutely zero question

His Stigness > AMGtech - now with more recalls!
03/07/2018 at 22:04

I don’t think we have the same definition for “safe” as he does.

And seriously, it’s an “inconvenience” to get his cars registered and insured? WOW.

Kinja'd!!!

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > His Stigness
03/07/2018 at 22:08

Yup. In addition to the issues I’ve mentioned, I’m further bothered by the fact that a) he’s a renter, regardless of how much he claims his landlord is cool with it, and b) this could largely be for views.

lone_liberal > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
03/07/2018 at 22:09

I wouldn’t go as far as you do, I do enjoy reading his stuff and I think he’s probably a basically good person, but I also think he has hoarding tendencies and a shocking inability to see what he’s doing from his neighbors’ perspectives. If he lived on 20 acres in the middle of nowhere then he could knock himself out, but if I lived next to him I’d be calling code enforcement.

Spanfeller is a twat > His Stigness
03/07/2018 at 22:09

I’ll keep that in mind because it is very true... the beauty of growing up is that you realize that the world is much more nuanced that what they tell you as a kid. If one parades themselves as perfect or all knowing in a nuanced world they will always come out as idiots... As you say these engineers come out as.

Shamefully I’ve noticed many people studying engineering around me, or teaching it, have a bit of a disregard for nuance or for understanding that the world is way bigger than them. We sometimes want to perceive ourselves as gods but in the end that’s not remotely true. What causes this? I don’t know... I can tell you that one of our teachers equated us to being the pinnacle of the world... which is of concern.

In fact, referencing Tracy, I seriously doubt he made any calculations in regard to the rusted radiator and decided instead “meh, this looks alright” and just went out like that, dissregarding the safety of many around him

The suffixes that we put ourselves don’t make us intelligent neither do they equip us with common sense... we need to apply those on our own.

random001 > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
03/07/2018 at 22:10

Kinja'd!!!

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > His Stigness
03/07/2018 at 22:10

I think his definition of safe is “hold my beer, I bet I can get ‘er to do 60 by the end of this street without crashing!”

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > lone_liberal
03/07/2018 at 22:11

“If he lived on 20 acres in the middle of nowhere then he could knock himself out, but if I lived next to him I’d be calling code enforcement.”

Precisely this. You wanna have fun at nobody’s expense but your own? Go for it. Jump the cars off a 50 foot ramp for all I care. But he’s doing it next to close neighbors *on a property he rents*.

His Stigness > AMGtech - now with more recalls!
03/07/2018 at 22:13

And to personalize it more: “Hold my beer, it needs another zip tie.”

random001 > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
03/07/2018 at 22:15

Kinja'd!!!

His Stigness > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
03/07/2018 at 22:15

I doubt that he is doing it for views since he could easily be evicted. I think it’s just a happy coincidence.

He definitely needs to tone it down for sure. His landlord isn’t the only person in the neighborhood. He claims he doesn’t want to make anyone unhappy, but he’s been doing this shit for years.

random001 > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
03/07/2018 at 22:16

Kinja'd!!!

John-Palazzo > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
03/07/2018 at 22:21

I agree with this 100%. Also, I feel like he should know that half assing everything you touch doesn’t make you a good wrencher and hoarding a bunch of PoS in your back yard doesn’t make you a collector and jeep connoisseur. At first he was so entertaining, now he’s just annoying.

His Stigness > Spanfeller is a twat
03/07/2018 at 22:26

I’m not even past 30 and I understand exactly what you’re saying. I am basically the equivalent of an engineer in the auto repair field in that I got a ton of professional certifications and state licenses but learned that there is more to the profession than that. I could easily act as if I know everything and point to my certifications and licenses as proof, but that’s not the case. I don’t know everything. I have been working on cars for maybe six years, so I have A LOT to learn. And I went into auto repair with that mentality and I undervalued myself. I have since learned I am a valuable technician, and I have also learned I do know quite a lot, but I have more to learn.

And on another note: it cracks me up when technicians think they know more than the engineers who made the car they’re working on. Just because you don’t like the way something was made or put together means you have any clue of how to make it better. And I think I will say that the next time someone bitches about a German car: “So if you really think VW fucked up, how would you have designed it?” *crickets*

facw > lone_liberal
03/07/2018 at 22:29

I tend to agree, though the hording may not be an issue for the neighborhood. Looking at google maps, it seems like the neighbor to his south has one car parked behind his house (I think this is the landlord, the car is a red sedan, so may even be the Kia in question), while the house to his north (I assume this is the upset neighbor) appears to have 11 cars, plus a trailer, parked outside.

Spanfeller is a twat > His Stigness
03/07/2018 at 22:33

We all always have a lot to learn, it’s just up to us to keep an open mind...

His Stigness > Spanfeller is a twat
03/07/2018 at 22:36

Yup. If only the old guys would be open minded. It escapes me now, but I had a run-in with one of those “back in my day” guys a while ago, but I can’t remember what he was bitching about.

Spanfeller is a twat > His Stigness
03/07/2018 at 22:39

what scares me is turning into one of those people to be honest...!

One of the teachers in AUTOMOTIVE DESIGN at my school basically decided that the whole concept of “freevalve” engines was “graceless and stupid” Boy will he be surprised when those turn into OEM equipment

His Stigness > Spanfeller is a twat
03/07/2018 at 22:44

Oh I’m scared of becoming that guy too. It’s hard to imagine right now since I have switched engine oils several times, and continue to research them, but you never know.

HAHAHAHAHA!!! Get his address so you can send him a plate of crow when an OEM picks it up.

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
03/07/2018 at 22:51

The hoarding jeeps I’m almost ok with. Crashing a jeep repeatedly into a car in the yard. Yeah that’s too much.

ranwhenparked > Chuckles
03/07/2018 at 23:03

Yeah, really, I’ve been renting a place for the last few years and I freaked out when I brought my old Lincoln home and realized it left an oil drip on the driveway - which lead to quickly putting on new valve cover gaskets, a new rear main seal, a new power steering pump, and a new brake master cylinder, to eliminate any possible source of fluid leaks. Also, Pour N Restore actually works.

DipodomysDeserti > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
03/07/2018 at 23:32

I don’t know man. Calling out a neighbor for something they’re doing in their walled off backyard seems like a rich asshole thing to do. If my neighbor came to me and asked me to stop having sex in my backyard because it lowered property values I’d tell them to go fuck themselves.

If you’re worried about a neighbor lowering your property values, go live out in the boonies. Keep in mind I’m in Arizona where we value personal liberties quite a bit more than most places.

ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
03/07/2018 at 23:37

This is where that whole reasonableness thing comes in. I don’t want an HOA, but I’d also have issues living with that close by. Most folks don’t mind a neighbor having an old car as a project, but when they multiply and begin impersonating a wrecking yard it becomes a problem. Ramming a car in your backyard is never going to be cool with the neighbors.

When folks abuse the reasonableness standard is when things have to get stupid and the rules oppressive. As much as I like ideal of folks doing whatever they want on thier property, the reality is that it affects those around them. If I lived in that neighborhood, code enforcement folks would be involved.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > DipodomysDeserti
03/07/2018 at 23:48

Let’s just say I don’t share those sentiments. I’m very friendly with all of my neighbors, we make a mutual effort to be as courteous as possible, and we all get along better and have a nicer go of things as a result.

rillweid - Now with more TRD and less TDI > His Stigness
03/07/2018 at 23:53

IMO he was drunk.

His Stigness > rillweid - Now with more TRD and less TDI
03/07/2018 at 23:55

I’d bet good money he doesn’t ever drink.

rillweid - Now with more TRD and less TDI > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
03/08/2018 at 00:01

Gotta disagree with you on this one. We live in the land of freedom, so I don’t have a problem with what he does. As you said yourself - if you wanna do this on your property that’s fine. However it is definitely antisocial. Im a bit skeptical about the connection to lowered property values beyond the ruts, but it’s not exactly courteous. I wouldn’t do this in a neighborhood, but I also wouldn’t confront him over it.

rillweid - Now with more TRD and less TDI > His Stigness
03/08/2018 at 00:15

That’s a fair bet. I’m voting he was drunk as my conspiracy theory. He specially said he was acting unsophisticated, and this seems remarkably stupid for David. I doubt it’s true, but it would be a good explanation.

DipodomysDeserti > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
03/08/2018 at 00:16

I’m friendly and courteous with my neighbirs as well, which is why neither of us would try to tell each other what we can do on our personal property.

I feel like only rich people feel the need to control the activities of their neighbors.

benjrblant > gettingoldercarguy
03/08/2018 at 00:42

Well, COTD is for a 24h period, (“day”) so I don’t see why the “day” doesn’t start and stop at 7pm EST.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > DipodomysDeserti
03/08/2018 at 00:42

In that case, I’ll just go take a quick cruise on my yacht and forget about the whole issue.

And believe me, if you look up any of the hundreds of popular videos of confrontations with neighbors over some behavior, you’ll quickly find it’s not just rich people; it’s everyone. I get where the stereotype of snooty HOAs comes in, but I would say I live in a fairly middle-class neighborhood, and I can’t think of anybody would be OK with one of the neighbors turning their backyard into my dog and then crashing a bunch of beater cars into each other in the side yard. It’s not like that only becomes socially unacceptable in neighborhoods over a certain income bracket; it’s rude and inconsiderate even in a trailer park.

DipodomysDeserti > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
03/08/2018 at 01:04

Yeah, a yaht is what separates the middle class from the upper class...

If you have enough real estate in your backyard to drive cars around , you’re either in some bumfuck town, or rich (possibly both). Hillbillies don’t call the cops on their neighbors for driving cars in their own backyard...

I don’t learn about the world by watching YouTube videos, so I can’t comment on that sort of research.

I work on old motorcycles/trucks (and sometimes screw) in my backyard. Thankully my neighbors don’t give a shit what I do on my own property.

I once had a rich relative tell me to park my old truck in the ally while attending a party in order to avoid upsetting the neighbors. Fucking tight assed rich people...

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > DipodomysDeserti
03/08/2018 at 01:09

Yikes. Did a Mercedes run over your dog?

Also, clearly there’s something in my language (or maybe it’s just the complaining itself) that gives off an air of what you’d consider a rich person, since I have a vague recollection of being told by you that “only a rich person would say that/complain about that” on previous occasions. Hopefully that will at least help me become trophy husband material or something.

whatuptkhere > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
03/08/2018 at 03:09

adamftw > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
03/08/2018 at 07:26

I’d be alright with everything he has done in the past because I’m a firm believer of “do whatever the fuck you want, it’s your house” but:

1- It isn’t... but that’s not my problem.

2- Smashing into cars and rev-limiting in your SUBURBAN YARD is like unsupervised 13 year old levels of stupid. He doesn’t live in the country. I’ve done stupid shit but never like this. Based on pictures I’ve seen of the place, and the fact that he has an absentee landlord who doesn’t give a shit makes me think he lives in an even shittier part of town that I previously thought he did, which is probably why he has been getting away with so much.

Chuckles > benjrblant
03/08/2018 at 07:31

I won’t complain, but it’s really up to the discretion of the person running it. It’s not exactly official. Someone can nominate it today when the nomination post goes up and see what happens.

Long-Voyager > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
03/08/2018 at 07:37

Point 1: Why are his neighbors looking over his fenced in back yard?

Point 2: Don’t they have their own lives to worry about?

Point 3: If everyone except you is fine with it, maybe he’s not the one who needs to move.

Stef Schrader > Spanfeller is a twat
03/08/2018 at 07:40

Holy red flag, Batman.

Admittedly, DT’s antics amuse me. He’s not in an HOA. His landlord is in the loop as to what he does. Moving that eyesore Kia from the street to the backyard seems like an improvement. I don’t know the local fauna up near Detroit as I’ve never been, but looking at the grass in the pics, it doesn’t seem like it’s at the level to where skunks would be any larger of a concern than usual. Point being, who cares what you do in your own backyard?! Some of us don’t live in HOA-villes for a reason.

But holy moly, when it comes to an apartment, dogs in the emergency staircase are NOT OK. I don’t even want to hear them bark—which my neighbors’ dogs do constantly at this point, to the point where I really want to move out. I’m about the opposite when it comes to behavior in apartments—be quiet, keep to yourself, and don’t be nosy in other peoples’ stuff so long as they’re not doing something that directly affects you. It’s not like an isolated backyard space in a non-HOA commuity—you share walls.

Get the landlord to shut that nonsense down ASAP. That’s not a backyard; it’s a shared space and everyone who shares that space should be comfortable using it.

Stef Schrader > Stef Schrader
03/08/2018 at 08:07

Case in point: My landlord gets mad when residents keep furniture and boxes in our shared stairways, even when it’s under the stairs. I don’t mind this. It’s a fire hazard, you aren’t paying to use that space for storage, and also, that’s our exit.

Stationary crap that should be kept in your own space is bad enough, but dogs are a jumbo-size nope. That exit must be clear for even the most dog-averse neighbors/visitors who might be there.

I can’t stand irresponsible pet owners, and even more so in the context of a shared building. If your dog is too big to handle being in your too-small apartment, you should not be the one taking care of that dog, full stop. Or you should move somewhere larger that works for your whole family, pets included.

DipodomysDeserti > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
03/08/2018 at 08:37

Yeah, that’s why I drive a BMW.

None of my comments were directed at you. Sorry if that was misconstrued. I was speaking from personal experience.

Spanfeller is a twat > Stef Schrader
03/08/2018 at 08:46

Yeah, we’re working on it, I guess the building doesn’t have landlords, we do have an HOA that is ran by the neighbors, though we normally stay out of it because it gets quite nasty. I love dogs but I know for certain that if I needed to evacuate I might send those dogs flying away by accident and not really care about it... if he gets pissed off what is he gonna do about it?

But some HOAs here are insane, for instance, we once were invited to not move into a building because we’re not of the same religion than all of the tenants. When I asked my parents why they didn’t sue they said “Even if we won the case, do you really want to be neighbors with someone you sued?”

Regarding Tracy....even in the rural community where my grandparents live there’s an understanding that somethings are too much even if there isn’t an HOA there... for instance, we actually had to rent a lot next to our home to park the cars during the festive season because my grandparents love hosting and the neighbors started getting angry that every weekend during summer a bunch of cars would indiscriminately park on the streets. I think they’re about to ban fireworks too, which I won’t miss.

Would I be bothered by what Tracy does? Not really... I mean I wouldn’t like seeing a red Kia being crashed on with a Jeep but as long as he’s not making a hydraulic fracturing well I pretty much couldn’t care. I can’t judge some poeple for getting angry though. I mean, having permission is different from doing the right thing and being sensible to your neighbors goes a lot further than abusing a permission that one of the land owners gave you.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > DipodomysDeserti
03/08/2018 at 09:24

I get where you’re coming from with your point about wealth, but I basically feel like money more accentuates people’s personalities than it does define them. If somebody’s gonna be a stuck-up jerk or a chill, laid-back person, that isn’t defined by their income, but it can be made more prominent.

Chuckles > Stef Schrader
03/08/2018 at 09:29

I’m grateful to not live in an HOA community, and hopefully I never do, but it still feels like he might be taking things a little too far for his suburban neighborhood. What DT really needs is an enormous plot of land so he can live his best life.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
03/08/2018 at 10:18

I feel bad having my dad’s Silverado *in the driveway* with a flat tire because it’s not exactly the prettiest thing as it sits, I don’t know how you can’t feel bad about doing the shit he does in a neighborhood.

Long-Voyager > Chuckles
03/08/2018 at 12:22

I might argue the nosey neighbor who keeps looking over the fence, then complaining are the reason you end up with ordinances.

Chuckles > Long-Voyager
03/08/2018 at 12:36

That’s a fair point, but I certainly get the impression that DT’s antics aren’t exactly quiet. If I was sitting in my backyard and my neighbor was on the other side of the fence loudly revving his cars and flinging mud, I’d probably get pissed.

It’s great that we have that sort of freedom, but a little bit of consideration for the people around us goes a long way. I wouldn’t want to piss off my neighbors just because I legally can. That being said, people who complain about your grass being too long or your car being an eyesore can go pound sand.

Long-Voyager > Chuckles
03/08/2018 at 12:42

I try to be respectful of my neighbors. I don’t toy with things early morning or late at night, so they leave me alone.

Chuckles > Long-Voyager
03/08/2018 at 12:45

Sounds like you’re doing things the right way. If DT was a little more considerate like you, his neighbor might have never complained.

Chuckles > Long-Voyager
03/08/2018 at 13:06

To be clear: I hate HOAs and would never want to live in one. I think people should be free to use their property as they see fit, but I also think that we should all try to be a little bit mindful of how our actions affect others. I think you’re right in that the nosy neighbor is a big part of the problem, but I also think that DT was oblivious to the fact that most people don’t want to live next to a backyard demolition derby.

Stef Schrader > Chuckles
03/08/2018 at 14:56

Eh, it seems like he listens to what his neighbors/landlord tell him when he oversteps what they want, either way.

Stef Schrader > Spanfeller is a twat
03/08/2018 at 14:59

Holy crap, man. Yeah, there’s laws against religious discrimination in leasing that should—in theory—get that HOA in deep doodoo. But in practice, I think it sadly slips by for the reasons your parents stated.

Spanfeller is a twat > Stef Schrader
03/08/2018 at 15:27

I mean... We could afford to give the opportunity away, but many people can’t say the same... I guess we have those laws here but well some very extreme members of this group are very proactive in not having other religions interfere in their communities... These people obviously don’t represent the whole religion. Yet im atheist so I really don’t give a damn, if someone is throwing a religious text at me I wouldn’t want to be their neighbors anyway.

Long-Voyager > Chuckles
03/08/2018 at 16:01

Honestly, I couldn’t care less what other people do on their property, it’s none of my business. Only time I care is if they’re breaking curfew during the week, even then, I don’t care enough to cause a scene.

Chuckles > Long-Voyager
03/08/2018 at 16:35

As someone who used to share a wall with people who threw parties every night, and let their baby cry for hours during the day, I care when it impedes on my ability to sleep.

Chuckles > Stef Schrader
03/08/2018 at 16:37

Fair point. I think truthfully, I only reacted as strongly as I did because life was making me grumpy.

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > Chuckles
03/08/2018 at 17:26

But I need to know what all of Oppo thinks about it, if they’re fine with that. As benjrblant told me, this WAS after yesterday’s Oppo COTD so he thinks it should count for today. I don’t know, what do you think? And also, the Oppo COTD is TOTALLY official. ;)

Spanfeller is a twat > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
04/22/2018 at 21:16

Hey, hey... Look at this

https://jalopnik.com/how-the-2017-ford-raptor-lowered-my-neighbors-property-1794436230